Pick6 wasn’t anything dynamic by either scheme. Tom Allen plays a lot of Match-Up Zone which is different than Match Zone or Match Man. Basically MatchUp is the most conservative of the modern Zone Coverage Shells. The DBs cover their area of Space, but aggressively tag the man in that space – keep on him until he leaves the space. Old fashioned Country Zone is guys just manning their space without tagging the receiver in the space. You called it a “hard” Cover 2. No one plays “soft” cover shells anymore unless end of game prevent style.
Match coverage. is different from match-up. In match, the DB may follow their man out of their zone based on assignment which is based on the pattern distribution. Man Match – is 100% m2m after the pattern distribution has taken place.
Manny Diaz was more aggressive in coverages, BUT… very sound. Allen mixes some nice pressure & coverage variety, but at times his D loses integrity in both coverage and gap vs run, because of this aggression. Obviously, this can be argued. Allen is good and mixes agg variety, but Diaz just better.
As far as Day/Kelly – it’s pretty ordinary Pro Spread stuff here. The new style of Pro is WCO mixed with some Air Raid “looking for grass. This is simply 2 quick routes w/ 2 routes over the top. The WRs over the top “find grass” while the 2 quick routes are well defined.
In this pro style pass spread it is a good idea to use a pro qb. This is why it is better to keep these schemes more to the nfl. Howard is definitely not a pro qb atm and may never be. Now, some pro qbs will even be burned by the pre-snap m2m look which moved into a C2 MatchUp shell. I’ve seen it happen to NFL qbs, but usually a decent NFL qb will immediately see the shift to C2 and roll his eyes to his secondary read on the other side of the field, which had the hook WR wide open as #4 left his assignment and raced to the flat.
You did a nice job showing pre-snap vs post-snap coverage, but didn’t point out the wide open hook to the other side. A college power spread style QB like Howard can’t be expected to make this quick decision.
It is disappointing how much Pro Style offense Kelly is doing – maybe at the demand of Day? – who knows. He simplified the play book a bit and used Howard’s legs more – which is good – but I say simplify even more. Then he can get back to Tempo like he used to do and OSU’s immense Skill Talent could come to the forefront. This late in the yr, don’t think we will see it.
So OSU’s great O talent won’t be maxed – but with a great D and great talent on O – and chip kelly’s experienced play calling – it could be enough IF the Spteams hold up. But would be easier – vs a team like GA – to really get back to the Power Spread that Chip was famous for…
Again, nice work!
I have been dissapointed in CKelly since his NFL journey. He’s lost a lot of his aggressiveness in both Space (scheme) & Time (Tempo). He’s still inventive, but it’s out of a “jail cell” so to speak.
NOW – this is his first time as an OC since Oregon over a decade ago. I was blaming his duties as a HC for his lack of aggression. I thought, with his only duty to the Offense now and with OSU’s talent – Chip would have a heyday! Nope…
NOW- is this Ryan Day’s influence? Probably to some degree. Day has a conservative mindset by nature. Check the schemes yr by yr since Urban – progressively safer. Starting w/ Stroud, our QBs have played w/ fear to some extent. This comes from the coaches.
The Pro style that Day and now Kelly like to bring to the table works far better with …Pros… especially when the college schemes still tend to be far more aggressive than NFL. Look at Stein – or even Kotelnicki – all they do – compared to Day/Kelly.
OSU is getting away with a lot because of their talent. Their talent may save the day – until they play similar talent in the playoffs and may have to rely on their shaky special teams.
I also think Manny Diaz had better schemes that Tom Allen. I’ve always felt this. Diaz doesn’t always get his due. Allen is good – Diaz is borderline great.
Pick6 wasn’t anything dynamic by either scheme. Tom Allen plays a lot of Match-Up Zone which is different than Match Zone or Match Man. Basically MatchUp is the most conservative of the modern Zone Coverage Shells. The DBs cover their area of Space, but aggressively tag the man in that space – keep on him until he leaves the space. Old fashioned Country Zone is guys just manning their space without tagging the receiver in the space. You called it a “hard” Cover 2. No one plays “soft” cover shells anymore unless end of game prevent style.
Match coverage. is different from match-up. In match, the DB may follow their man out of their zone based on assignment which is based on the pattern distribution. Man Match – is 100% m2m after the pattern distribution has taken place.
Manny Diaz was more aggressive in coverages, BUT… very sound. Allen mixes some nice pressure & coverage variety, but at times his D loses integrity in both coverage and gap vs run, because of this aggression. Obviously, this can be argued. Allen is good and mixes agg variety, but Diaz just better.
As far as Day/Kelly – it’s pretty ordinary Pro Spread stuff here. The new style of Pro is WCO mixed with some Air Raid “looking for grass. This is simply 2 quick routes w/ 2 routes over the top. The WRs over the top “find grass” while the 2 quick routes are well defined.
In this pro style pass spread it is a good idea to use a pro qb. This is why it is better to keep these schemes more to the nfl. Howard is definitely not a pro qb atm and may never be. Now, some pro qbs will even be burned by the pre-snap m2m look which moved into a C2 MatchUp shell. I’ve seen it happen to NFL qbs, but usually a decent NFL qb will immediately see the shift to C2 and roll his eyes to his secondary read on the other side of the field, which had the hook WR wide open as #4 left his assignment and raced to the flat.
You did a nice job showing pre-snap vs post-snap coverage, but didn’t point out the wide open hook to the other side. A college power spread style QB like Howard can’t be expected to make this quick decision.
It is disappointing how much Pro Style offense Kelly is doing – maybe at the demand of Day? – who knows. He simplified the play book a bit and used Howard’s legs more – which is good – but I say simplify even more. Then he can get back to Tempo like he used to do and OSU’s immense Skill Talent could come to the forefront. This late in the yr, don’t think we will see it.
So OSU’s great O talent won’t be maxed – but with a great D and great talent on O – and chip kelly’s experienced play calling – it could be enough IF the Spteams hold up. But would be easier – vs a team like GA – to really get back to the Power Spread that Chip was famous for…
Again, nice work!
I have been dissapointed in CKelly since his NFL journey. He’s lost a lot of his aggressiveness in both Space (scheme) & Time (Tempo). He’s still inventive, but it’s out of a “jail cell” so to speak.
NOW – this is his first time as an OC since Oregon over a decade ago. I was blaming his duties as a HC for his lack of aggression. I thought, with his only duty to the Offense now and with OSU’s talent – Chip would have a heyday! Nope…
NOW- is this Ryan Day’s influence? Probably to some degree. Day has a conservative mindset by nature. Check the schemes yr by yr since Urban – progressively safer. Starting w/ Stroud, our QBs have played w/ fear to some extent. This comes from the coaches.
The Pro style that Day and now Kelly like to bring to the table works far better with …Pros… especially when the college schemes still tend to be far more aggressive than NFL. Look at Stein – or even Kotelnicki – all they do – compared to Day/Kelly.
OSU is getting away with a lot because of their talent. Their talent may save the day – until they play similar talent in the playoffs and may have to rely on their shaky special teams.
I also think Manny Diaz had better schemes that Tom Allen. I’ve always felt this. Diaz doesn’t always get his due. Allen is good – Diaz is borderline great.